Random Moments in #domsquad (volume 3)

Interesting thing about this excerpt is that it includes a statement about opening the log file at both date and time - the first I have noticed of any specific mentions of a date. The date, which I bolded in the text, is given as Oct 20, 2000. This was during our TFC days.

[XCoNvicT] yep
[XCoNvicT] what kind of beatz you makin
[RoyaLBlooD] something phat and psycho
[XCoNvicT] "phat" ?
[XCoNvicT] too broad
[XCoNvicT] let me ask you....
[XCoNvicT] what are you doin right now
[RoyaLBlooD] talking to you
[RoyaLBlooD] waiting for ppl to get situated and come over
[XCoNvicT] it seems like a great deal of lag from me talkin and you talkin
[XCoNvicT] whos comin over
[RoyaLBlooD] not sure
[XCoNvicT] what occasion
[RoyaLBlooD] mark, joel, mike for sure
[RoyaLBlooD] maybe Paul and ruth
[XCoNvicT] lol
[RoyaLBlooD] maybe the rest of Mikes band
[RoyaLBlooD] thats probably it at the most
[XCoNvicT] you went out with ruth.....
[XCoNvicT] lol
[XCoNvicT] damn this cookie is gummy
[XCoNvicT] too many chews'
[RoyaLBlooD] i hope you got NHL 2001, cuz im gunna totally dominate
[XCoNvicT] for the ps2 I am
[RoyaLBlooD] its godly
[RoyaLBlooD] you can even make your own graphics for created players
[RoyaLBlooD] so you could try to make your own face
[XCoNvicT] Madden, SSX, Timesplitters, and Star Wars Starfighter
[XCoNvicT] well for PS2 also
[XCoNvicT] you just need digi cam
[RoyaLBlooD] we'll see, PS2 is looking like it might be a big dissapointment from a gaming perspective
[XCoNvicT] I'll have at least 10 games for PS2 by the year end
[XCoNvicT] well, I don't see how
[XCoNvicT] PS2 only has the best launch in history
[XCoNvicT] 28 games
[XCoNvicT] and about 10 of them are really good
[RoyaLBlooD] but the games sold like shit actually
[RoyaLBlooD] in japan that is
[RoyaLBlooD] system sold good, games sold terrible
[XCoNvicT] well thas Japan
[XCoNvicT] so did Dreamcast games
[RoyaLBlooD] PS2 will be successfull no doubt
[XCoNvicT] and N64 sold horribly over at first
[RoyaLBlooD] but more cuz of its DVD capabilties
[XCoNvicT] yah, but you have Madden which looks gorgeous
[XCoNvicT] SSX which is the best snowboarding game of all-time
[RoyaLBlooD] for now, yah
[XCoNvicT] and tony hawk, gran turismo
[XCoNvicT] medalgear
[RoyaLBlooD] thats over a year away
[XCoNvicT] so....
[RoyaLBlooD] year without delays, which you know it will have a lot of delays
[XCoNvicT] its awesome
[XCoNvicT] nah
[RoyaLBlooD] i wouldnt doubt it if it takes 2 years
[XCoNvicT] it'll be out fall- 2001
[RoyaLBlooD] cuz the PS2 is a bitch to develop for
[XCoNvicT] it's already playable
[XCoNvicT] that it is...
[XCoNvicT] but....
[RoyaLBlooD] and since gamecube would be coming out around when MGS2 comes out, they would want to make sure MGS2 is at its bst
[RoyaLBlooD] so itll get delayed to make sure its awesome
[XCoNvicT] people will find actually how powerful it is
[RoyaLBlooD] its not really all that powerfull though
[XCoNvicT] gamcube....
[XCoNvicT] garbage
[RoyaLBlooD] some parts of N64 are more powerfull than PS2
[XCoNvicT] I like Xbox and PS2
[XCoNvicT] no....
[RoyaLBlooD] N64 anti-aliasing engine is a lot better than PS2
[XCoNvicT] no it's not...
[RoyaLBlooD] so PS2 graphics suffer a lot of zig-zagging
[XCoNvicT] it just takes gettin used to
[RoyaLBlooD] yah it is
[RoyaLBlooD] the PS2 anti-aliasing is almost non-existant
[XCoNvicT] because it got too strong components
[XCoNvicT] no it isn't
[RoyaLBlooD] wait till you get it
[XCoNvicT] have you read anything
[RoyaLBlooD] yes
[RoyaLBlooD] dreamcast is way better
[RoyaLBlooD] PS2 totally sucks in that area
[XCoNvicT] nope Dead or alive has full screen anti-aliasing
[RoyaLBlooD] Tekken Tag Tourny has really really bad aliasing
[RoyaLBlooD] full by PS2 standards
[RoyaLBlooD] thats what im saying, they cheaped out on that
[RoyaLBlooD] they recognize their anti-aliasing as something else
[RoyaLBlooD] they define it different, they way they do it isnt good
[XCoNvicT] madden
[XCoNvicT] ssx
[XCoNvicT] look at star wars
[XCoNvicT] it's just the first games are suffering, mainly the japaneese games
[XCoNvicT] no
[RoyaLBlooD] well dreamcast would suffer too in its first round of games
[RoyaLBlooD] but Dreamcast's first round of games are a lot smoother than PS2's
[RoyaLBlooD] cuz it has better anti-aliasing, heh
[RoyaLBlooD] PS2 has outstanding CGI elements
[RoyaLBlooD] half their previews are of that
[XCoNvicT] dreamcast is easier to develope for
[XCoNvicT] yah
[XCoNvicT] but PS2 is better
[XCoNvicT] just wait
[RoyaLBlooD] id say PS2 is better only cuz its not sega
[RoyaLBlooD] but Gamecube will so own all of them
[XCoNvicT] I have dreamcast
[XCoNvicT] and NFL2k1 isn't even close to Madden
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[RoyaLBlooD] PS2 has a lot of advanced new technolgies in its engine
[RoyaLBlooD] but powerwise, its not all that more than N64 was
=== (signoff\#domsquad) XCoNvicT[~java@199.108.50.51] @[03:37:35pm] [Connection reset by peer]
[RoyaLBlooD] same amount of video ram, anti-aliasing its about the same
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[RoyaLBlooD] same amount of video ram, anti-aliasing its about the same
[XCoNvicT] nick/ XCoNvicT
[XCoNvicT] lol
[XCoNvicT] you reapested that
[RoyaLBlooD] you pinged out before i said it
[XCoNvicT] hey ...
[XCoNvicT] PS2 is wayyy better
[XCoNvicT] N64 is blurry
[XCoNvicT] overdone in anti-aliasing
[XCoNvicT] thas why
[XCoNvicT] the system memory is more N64
[XCoNvicT] *than
[RoyaLBlooD] not the video memory though
[RoyaLBlooD] both 4 megs
[XCoNvicT] ok...the Vram isn't enough but thas just for the textures
[XCoNvicT] and the textures I saw so far are top notch
[RoyaLBlooD] yah they are
[RoyaLBlooD] but they dont run smoothly, thats the main thing
[XCoNvicT] it still has raw pollygon muscle
[XCoNvicT] -l
[RoyaLBlooD] on the games with a lot of action, youll see the problem
[XCoNvicT] nah
[XCoNvicT] Dynasty Warriors has about 10 people on screen at once
[XCoNvicT] and it run 60 fps
[XCoNvicT] smooth
[XCoNvicT] so....thas impressive
[RoyaLBlooD] animation is smooth
[RoyaLBlooD] polys are jagged thouhg
[RoyaLBlooD] compared to the same level machines
[RoyaLBlooD] Dreamcast, Gamebox
[XCoNvicT] the bouncer has about 8 people at once with alot of polys and effects
[XCoNvicT] Dreamcast has some games that PS2 has also
[XCoNvicT] and PS2 looks better
[XCoNvicT] dualshock is arguably the best controller of all-time
[XCoNvicT] and the expandabilty is great
[XCoNvicT] Hard-drive possibly a memory add-on
[RoyaLBlooD] exactly
[RoyaLBlooD] PS2 has a lot of technology, too much
[RoyaLBlooD] developers hate it already
[XCoNvicT] uhm....whereas Nintendo is goin for the conventional gaming experience
[RoyaLBlooD] itll be successfull till Gamecube, then itll be like a SNES vs Genesis thing
[XCoNvicT] well....they'll love once they can tap into it
[RoyaLBlooD] thats what Nintendo said about N64...
[XCoNvicT] well genesis out sold nintendo
[XCoNvicT] and playstation
[RoyaLBlooD] no
[RoyaLBlooD] playstation sold the most of them
[XCoNvicT] and even though N64 came afterwards it still lost
[XCoNvicT] N64 was almost 3-times as powerful as the PS
[RoyaLBlooD] but hard to develop for
[XCoNvicT] and it still lost
[RoyaLBlooD] now its reversed
[RoyaLBlooD] PS2 is the bitch to work with, Gamecube is the one everyone will love to develop on
[XCoNvicT] well, only thing is this
[XCoNvicT] Nintendo are after the pre-teen market
[XCoNvicT] no DVD
[XCoNvicT] no plans for internet
[XCoNvicT] no EA
[RoyaLBlooD] actually they have the most original and created ideas planned
[RoyaLBlooD] with the gameboy advanced and all
[XCoNvicT] they do, I agree
[XCoNvicT] Nintendo is heavy on game development
[RoyaLBlooD] they also have a better disc
[XCoNvicT] no....
[RoyaLBlooD] DVD holds more, thats all
[XCoNvicT] how's it better
[RoyaLBlooD] the disc they are using is expected to be the new standard
[XCoNvicT] well correct
[XCoNvicT] no....
[XCoNvicT] how
[RoyaLBlooD] well thats what the industry is already thinking
[RoyaLBlooD] its more compact
[XCoNvicT] more room is what you want
[RoyaLBlooD] nintendos disc is plenty of room
[XCoNvicT] so you don't need that much compact for the house
[XCoNvicT] unless it's for portable
[RoyaLBlooD] its for both
[RoyaLBlooD] home system and portable
[RoyaLBlooD] might be cheaper too i think
[XCoNvicT] well at home you could use records or fuckin laser discs
[RoyaLBlooD] im not sure though
[RoyaLBlooD] you could but you would be stupid to use something like a laser disc, that was such a bust
[XCoNvicT] you don't need anything small
[RoyaLBlooD] no one wants a huge disc
[XCoNvicT] Im just sayin about the size
[XCoNvicT] just an example
[XCoNvicT] at the crib, cd size it compact enough
[XCoNvicT] you don't mini disc and all this other shit
[XCoNvicT] unless it has more storage space
[XCoNvicT] but if I have a DVD which is already compact
[XCoNvicT] and it holds more than 3 -times the space
[XCoNvicT] I'd choose DVD everytime
[XCoNvicT] DVD isnt goin anywhere
[RoyaLBlooD] SNES outsold Genesis by the way
[RoyaLBlooD] just wanted to point that out
[XCoNvicT] well genesis was known as the own hero then
[RoyaLBlooD] it came out first thats all
[XCoNvicT] gave Nintendo a run for its money
[RoyaLBlooD] ppl got it first and some ppl chose to remain loyal to it no matter what
[XCoNvicT] and....Nintendo come to find out, started that whole violence in gaming shit in congress
[XCoNvicT] so it could slow down the genesis
[XCoNvicT] they were so scared
[XCoNvicT] thas why I don't like Nintendo
[RoyaLBlooD] cuz they actually make quality without needing to resort to cheap tactics
[XCoNvicT] they're like the geeks that call the police after you haze em
[RoyaLBlooD] stuff like resident evil, mortal kombat, etc
[XCoNvicT] actually thas a cheap tactic
[RoyaLBlooD] popular purely cuz of the blood parts
[XCoNvicT] well RE was that bad
[RoyaLBlooD] they would have been popular no matter what, but not as much
[XCoNvicT] mortal Kombat 1 and 2 were good
[XCoNvicT] anyways the point is......Sony is awesome
[RoyaLBlooD] and stupid at the same time
[XCoNvicT] they were rookies in the game and blew the bootz off Sega and Nintendo
[XCoNvicT] easily
[RoyaLBlooD] biggest reason PSX was successfull is cuz N64 was a bitch to work with so developers got fed up and left
[RoyaLBlooD] now they go and make a system even harder to develop for than N64 was
[XCoNvicT] they kinda got too far in tech department
[XCoNvicT] thas alright
[RoyaLBlooD] DVD player is a smart move
[RoyaLBlooD] lots of ppl will get it just for that
[XCoNvicT] because the middleware will handle that
[RoyaLBlooD] the system is gunna sell like hell
[XCoNvicT] well of course
[RoyaLBlooD] but the games i dont see them moving as well as Gamecube's will eventually
[XCoNvicT] tha swhy developer will stay with the system
[XCoNvicT] hey matt I'll BB in 10 minutes we'll finish this discussion
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